Author Topic: reconfirmation request (Read 1988 times)

cindi · « **on:** November 13, 2006, 11:16:15 pm »

From time to time I would like to be able to ask subscribers to reconfirm their request to be on my list.

I ask them to confirm when they first sign up but as time goes by maybe they get tired of the emails and let them go into their junk or spam mail folder. As many may know hotmail rates a server depending on how many emails from their server go into those folders and servers get points against them, which could eventually have bad results for the sending mail server.

Short of setting up a new list and emailing everyone and asking them to resubscribe is there any easy way to send out a link asking them to reconfirm their desire to be on my mailing list?

Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA

mike2 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 14, 2006, 03:30:56 am »

I'm curious as to what you would be trying to achieve here... If they are still on the list, but the email is just going to their junk folder, it won't do any good to ask them to reconfirm signing up to your list.

If they are people that have been removed for some reason or haven't confirmed in the first place that's different. The reconfirm message would work for the ones that never confirmed and I believe there is a post here on the message boards about re-emailing ones that have bounced. I'm guessing you could do something similar with ones that removed themselves, but I'm not sure if you would want to.

Also, your Sig Intrigues me... It's pretty easy to get white listed with Yahoo and Aol. Hotmail is another monster all together.

Just thought I'd throw in my .02

cindi · « **Reply #2 on:** November 14, 2006, 09:31:03 am »

My thinking is this: the subscribers who do not read their junk mail won't reconfirm and I can get them off the list.
That will reduce the number of emails I am sending out going into junk mail folders.

I do not wish to ask those that have removed themselves to signup again, they are gone and that's ok with me. They get the option to sign up again when they visit my website.

Hotmail and AOL are the easiest free email providers for me to get along with. The methods to be whitelisted with them
have so far proved successful for me.

Yahoo, while they won't come out and admit it, something is definitely wrong between my server and
theirs because no matter what I do, I continually watch my mail queue clog up with their
deferments. Yahoo is the one who recommends asking subscribers to reconfirm from time to time.

mike2 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 14, 2006, 11:06:16 am »

Hmm, that is odd... my dealings are a bit different. I have no problems with AOL and Yahoo.

But even after being "Partially" white listed with hotmail and even getting on their feedback loop system, they continue to give me delivery problems....

Anyway back to your actual post. The only way I can see doing this would be to move All your subscribers to a new list and asking them all to re-confirm. Dean may have other thoughts, but I can't see any other way.

I think a better solution would be to simply get your email delivered to the inbox first.

Here's a thought and what I did to kind of help with hotmail.... On my sendmail, I made a queue group for hotmail and simply /dev/null'd all hotmail messages, basically didn't send them any mail at all for a few days. This made hotmail like my mail server again. I then re-turn on their queue group and mail gets through for a bit.

The trick I guess would be in that time to get them to completely whitelist you... Maybe that'll help, maybe not...

cindi · « **Reply #4 on:** November 14, 2006, 11:32:29 am »

It's interesting to hear the experience of another, thank you for sharing.

I do not believe my emails are the problem for any of the free mail providers, I always strive to keep a clean, active list. That is money in the bank for me.

I believe the problem comes into play on my website when peer to peer mailing exist and that includes an address book for the users. I am leaning towards the idea that some of them may be continually mailing to addresses that no longer exist. I clean up their list and they add the bad addresses back. I delete their email to bad addresses and inform them. They simply try again and again and again to mail to bad email addresses.

With that being said, it would be nice if Yahoo would make a consideration for peer to peer mailing such as AOL and Hotmail have done. Somehow I can't see that happening in the near future if ever.