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marco

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I SPAM MYSELF???
« on: August 07, 2007, 09:04:01 am »
hi
i use a shared host on HostGator

ListMail is properly configured: email sents (sendmail), Bounce work fine , dailymail work, etc...

As email client i use Mozilla Thunderbird with SPAMATO Filter, and ALL messages and report coming from ListMailPro go in Spam DIRECTLY!! :-(

Note that i'm from Italy, so messages are in Italian, but if we make tests in English, results are the same

here is detailed report about Spam...Myself :-)

(sensitive data are masked with XXXX)

any suggestions/help?

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EMAIL SUBJECT:
Un Caloroso benvenuto a MArco Forconi da Marco Forconi!

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EMAIL BODY:
ciao MArco Forconi,
benvenuto in questa lista informativca

spero che ti troverai bene

saluti
Marco

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Filter Results
Filter    Spam%         Info
Domainator    unknown         No links in email
Earlgrey    unknown         No links in email
Bayesianato    100%         Tokens used to calculate spam probability:

    * (79,09%) for
    * (82,66%) please
    * (99,14%) bounce@XXXXXXXXXXXXX
    * (21,93%) forconi
    * (13,38%) questa
    * (83,33%) caloroso
    * (20,74%) lista
    * (97,06%) news@XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    * (85,84%) was
    * (23,67%) listmail
    * (91,67%) 8860
    * (17,84%) mfcart
    * (22,04%) notiziario
    * (93,75%) informativca
    * (81,38%) any
    * (21,07%) saluti
    * (74,01%) 7bit
    * (74,39%) with
    * (76,65%) this
    * (80,44%) original

Ruleminator    100%

    * distrusted_cid_sender: unknown
    * distrusted_sender: 100%
    * pre_checked: unknown

        1 of 3 rules matched!
Comha Filter    100% >>>>>Pure spam<<<<<<<
 (no revokes in highest matching rank)!

10 of 10 digests matched with 5 reported mails.
0 of 10 digests matched with 0 revoked mails.

Matches of reports are bold, matches of revokes are italic:

    * (?MYNAMEi,??benvenuto,8694892154904878889)
    * (?MYNAME,??ben,8518212739250131660)
    * (ista?informativca???,8005821808432661114)
    * (????saluti??XXXXX???,7983548003175343382)
    * (o?che?ti?troverai?be,7797243011386636367)
    * (nuto?in?questa?lista,7457026675568246692)
    * (Forconi,??benvenuto?,7319336951492702456)
    * (ro?che?ti?troverai?b,7234096153202792942)
    * (ai?bene????saluti??M,7066736166264558452)
    * (nformativca????spero,6671975794436530645)

Razor Filter    0%

    * ephemeral4: 0%
    * whiplash8: unknown

        -

DW

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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2007, 06:43:13 am »
If I understand the report correctly it looks like the percentages in a bayesian filter "Ruleiminator" are exceeding the spam threshold.

The following lines could be eliminated by changing your "Bounce to email" (Configuration) and "Send From Email" (List Settings).
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* (99,14%) bounce@XXXXXXXXXXXXX
 * (97,06%) news@XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Unfortunately, I don't know if this will be enough to get your message past the filter.

Could you have mistakenly flagged some of your own messages as spam in the past?  This would affect your filter to be biased against your messages.

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Dean Wiebe
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marco

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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2007, 09:44:57 am »
i've do the change, bow Baesyan are ok, but SPAm remain :-(

here is new results:
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Filter Results
Filter    Spam%         Info
Ruleminator    100%

    * distrusted_cid_sender: unknown
    * distrusted_sender: 100%
    * pre_checked: unknown

        1 of 3 rules matched!
Bayesianato    0%         Tokens used to calculate spam probability:

    * (4,95%) repartotecnico.com
    * (6,07%) cordialmente
    * (3,85%) spiegarti
    * (94,44%) 8860
    * (8,88%) seguono
    * (10,14%) quindi
    * (8,99%) iscritto
    * (8,40%) rem.php
    * (10,84%) tempo
    * (91,07%) here
    * (6,96%) apri
    * (10,43%) tasse
    * (90,00%) ecommerce
    * (8,28%) problemi
    * (10,23%) segui
    * (2,50%) 4afc097
    * (2,50%) 82.84.116.39
    * (9,04%) istruzioni
    * (95,73%) more
    * (89,54%) body

please, help :-)

marco

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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2007, 09:45:58 am »
note that this domain (mftest.net)  is TOTALLY NEW, never send email from here

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« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2007, 04:01:05 pm »
We will have to figure out which rule, exactly, is causing the message to be flagged.  If you send a simple email, such as with "mytest" in the subject and text body, does it come up as spam?  Regretfully I don't know enough about your anti-spam system to be able to know where to look for the rules that are causing the message(s) to be marked as spam.

Regards
Dean Wiebe
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